just heard a rumour that if Lewis is granted to start from the first row all 2023 season, he's willing to try... guess it's just a rumour
Guess who was the well deserved role model for underrepresented communities?
William Theodore Ribbs Jr.
The first black racing driver from The United States. Total gentleman and a wonderful human being. I implore everyone here to look it up.
Anyone who assumes it is racist to despise Hamilton, can now start crying about something else.
All those things are just secondary to what matters and that is driving skills. If a very good deserving driver happens to be gay, etc. then great. But don't select based on ancillary stuff like that. For that matter it would be great to have a driver from the African continent
There already is a gay driver, they drive the #44 car, so I really don't see the issue here?
I want the best drivers in motorsport to be F1 drivers.......that should be the qualification.....it shouldn't matter what their religious views,orientation or skin colour is.......
Neither should drivers be there just because their family has got the wealth to put them there.
But is should be the best drivers,people shouldn't be selected before more qualified drivers to appeal to certain groups if they are not as skilled or has had the track record to show they belong in F1.
It's a pity the same amount of effort is not being put forward to highlight the issues with starving and uneducated people in 3rd world countries,where human rights abuses are very commen.
You have highlighted an important point.
Major corporations and establishment political parties support the woke movement for that simple reason. It keeps the sheep fighting each other, rather than be aware of the real issue with the world we live in - wealth inequality.
There are some many long standing bigger problems in the world to be solved, hunger comes to mind, poverty, access to education, medical care that affect every single color, gender, religion, continent, country in the world.
"Let the best driver drive"..... Nobody is unquestionably and objectively best suited for a role. You can always argue or make the case that someone else is better and has the same or similar qualifications whether in F1 or other industries or sectors. Nothing is more naive to the real world than believing that you can always objectively find the best person for a role. There is always a level of judgement and subjectivity involved in selecting the best driver or the best person for a role or a position especially when their track record or achievements are similar. A gay driver may be selected for marketability purposes if his achievements are good enough just as Zhou was selected to get the Chinese audience in F1 or Mazepin and Stroll for the financial backing they bring.
This is a valid comment no doubt...you are absolutely correct in that it is and always will be a subjective process...and I have no problem with a qualified driver with a proven track record (see what I did there), who has social "points" that are desirable to the FIA getting a shot...good for them. My issue is with unqualified hacks that get a shot simply due to their social "points". This is what we're seeing in the entertainment industry currently...and it has absolutely decimated the quality of film and tv as a result.
I'm sure this will be unpopular, but let's just have the best drivers drive...I don't give a damn about their social standing...let's take a lesson from film and tv...clearly lesser qualified people are being given jobs they aren't qualified for, and we're seeing the results.
They are a sizable portion of the population. No doubt there have been many gay and bi drivers.
Whether a driver is gay or not, makes no difference to me, nor is it any of my business. For all I know or at least, am aware of, any number of drivers could be gay or bi or even Furries. So, please, don't start making it my business by shoving it in my face and making such a case blatantly obvious. It has absolutely nothing to do with the sport. If LBGTQ, or women, for that matter are to be drivers in F1, they should prove the ability to deserve the position by successfully competing up through the ranks, like all drivers do.
Notice the carefully curated script by the woke brigade
1) Claim victimhood based on lack of representation.
2) Aggressively pursue an agenda to favor a very specific section of the society.
4) When contradicted or questioned about their motive, start peddling the discrimination card and silence the criticisms by forcefully projecting guilt.
Rinse and repeat by shouting about it, incessantly.
This will achieve nothing but disharmony, conflict and gaslighting people with different perspectives into fighting with each other. Nothing but a divisive narrative meant to pit people from different backgrounds, to fight against each other.
Joseph Goebbels will be envious of the woke brigade's playbook. Absolutely farcical and shameful.
We should not be giving race seats to people just because they are gay, white, black, female, male or any other option available. We should be giving race seats based on talent and if anyone from the above are good enough then they deserve the seat. Political correctness is going too far these days and sectors suffer because of it. We are diluting the workforce by putting wrong people into the positions just because the government says we have to diversify by x%.
"We should not be giving race seats to people just because they are gay, white, black, female, male or any other option available."
Sigh. That's not what's being said. It's that if they are gay, white, black, female, male or whatever, that it shouldn't matter! Yes based on talent, exactly that. Not based on anything else. This is the point and one that went way over your head.
Too many people with this mixed up attitude.
I don't think F1 is about filling diversity quota's. To assume that misses the point altogether. It's to not turn away anyone based on anything other than their talent.
Absolutely spot on.
Everyone has their own preferences. And individuals of all orientation and background should be treated equally.
However, the woke brigade is waging an all out war on the traditional way of life. The LBBTQWXYZ agenda is being aggressively shoved down everyone's throats. Kids are being deliberately brainwashed through academia, social media and entertainment industry into questioning their naturally born gender. That is a different topic though.
Competitive sports is about celebrating results based on ability, skill and perseverance. NOT affirmative action to pander to specific sections of society and achieve predetermined results.
Let Women, gay or any other oriented people perform to the best of their ability based on INDIVIDUAL MERIT.
This is an all-round devolution of society.
REGRESSIVE...not PROGRESSIVE.
Humanity has progressed to this stage from being cave men, NOT by affirmative action or misplaced notions of social justice warriors or self proclaimed vanguards of morality or virtue. But by scientific breakthroughs, individual imagination and achievements, IRRESPECTIVE of their background or orientation.
I've seen some of the attitudes in here against women, and I'm willing to bet if any driver were open about being gay they'd be villified, not glorified.
F1 is another sport that would like to "pray away the gay"
While doing so, they pretend they've never had a gay driver, like many other sports pretend gay people were just invented.
The Macho is laughable
How well received and welcomed an openly gay person will be accepted in the sports would depend on how actually good he is.
If the person comes in and is straight away shows that he is clearly a very talented driver and will be challenging the likes of Max, Charles, George, Lando or probably Piastri etc ... the top drives in the field, then he will be well received and there will be positive reviews regarding gay drivers on the grid.
On the other hand, if he comes to the sports and makes drivers like Latifi, Grosjean or Maldonado look like rockstars, then that will only fuel negative press and reasons why gay drivers should not be in F1.
The same connotations is true for female drivers in F1 too. If (and a really BIG if) there is a really talented female F1 driver who can come into the field and challenge the front runners, no one will object to that. On the other hand, if finishing in P18 is an achievement, then that merely supports the argument why they should not be around and will only fuel more jokes regarding 'lady drivers' on the road.