Gasly disagrees with Marko and Verstappen: 'We can't accept this'
Pierre Gasly is happy with the quick action of the FIA. After the Azerbaijan Grand Prix, several drivers called for porpoising to be investigated and the FIA listened to the drivers. Gasly says he is still suffering from his back since Baku.
In Barcelona, most teams seemed to have porpoising reasonably under control. Then the circus travelled to Monaco, where there are barely any long straights for the car to bounce and the bumps in the asphalt seemed to make it a bit worse. Once it arrived in Azerbaijan, it appeared that the 2022's bouncing problem was far from resolved, leading many of the Formula One drivers to believe that porpoising should be investigated.
FIA intervenes quickly
On Thursday the news came out that the FIA will intervene hard and wants to reduce the porpoising problems. Gasly is very happy with the quick response from the motorsport federation: "I am happy that the FIA took our complaints seriously and responded so quickly. What we experienced in Baku clearly went too far," the AlphaTauri driver says according to Auto, Motor und Sport.
The Frenchman says he went to the physiotherapist twice a day in Baku for treatment, explaining that he still feels his back. "We can't accept that our back is mistreated like this for an hour and a half," Gasly says.
Red Bull not satisfied
While Gasly is pleased with the first steps taken by the FIA, the investigation also has detractors. Red Bull Racing advisor Helmut Marko thinks Mercedes has made the FIA want to change the rules and that is unfair according to the Austrian. Driver Max Verstappen also thinks the investigation is "nonsense" and the Dutchman and Marko are supported by Guenther Steiner.
Let's get the Mercedes puppet Gasly out of the team and put a promising youngster in there. He's proven he is slower than Max anyway and is mad that Perez, who came closest to Verstappen performance, got a new contract
As an engineer, it seems to me that the solution lies in some kind of popoff in the tray to limit downforce due to the venturi effect that gradually tapers the pressure differential starting at around 250kph. Like the pressure valve on a steam cooker only in reverse, it's triggered by low pressure not high pressure. This could be linked to DRS, ie when DRS is activated, the valve starts to open preventing the car from being sucked further down onto the asphalt. So it never reaches the point where downforce is suddenly lost and the car bounces. This would not have any effect on cornering as corners are taken at lower speeds and the popoff would be closed.
Tnx for commenr, Made me think Could you fix it by sucking air from below somehow? Your solution makes pressure to varies less? Edit Ok my brain farted,, now i understand what tou are saying lol Will leave original comment above.
I would put a slide gate in the undertray on each side, ducted to the area in front of the radiator(s). This would be controlled by the throttle. When the throttle opens fully, the slide gate opens progressively allowing air to flow under the car. This has 2 beneficial effects: 1. the air pressure under the car increases at full throttle/high speed preventing bottoming and bouncing; 2: the drag of the radiators is reduced at full throttle allowing higher top speed. MB you can thank me by sending me two pit passes to the Austin GP. And if you win more races, you can send me a check at the end of the year. I leave it up to you to determine the value of my idea.
I I Like that solution, well thought out and clever engineering solution. But.... is it a moveable device?
Yes, like the DRS it's a moveable device. It could be linked to the DRS as that's essentially what it will do; reduce drag. FIA wants a solution, they make the rules. A simple variant of the idea would be to put some small holes in the tray in the same area ie just in front of the radiators. As the car goes faster, the pressure difference across the tray would increase and more air would flow through the holes, achieving the same result. However, you would lose some downforce while cornering, which the first proposal avoids (ie it maintains cornering downforce as cornering is normally done under partial throttle). You are essentially weakening the venturi effect in a managed fashion. An entirely different idea would be to put suspension travel limiters (stop blocks) in the suspension so the car could not be sucked down onto the asphalt more than the limiters allowed. A final solution would be to use progressive springs in the suspension, so that the spring rate increases a lot as the car squats.
After a quick google search, these are the drivers that have publicly complained about the bouncing: gasly hamilton ricciardo sainz russell schumacher magnussen bottas leclerc
Lol, Gasly will never be villainous enough for the main RedBull team.
Its not about who is the greatest driver of f1. Its about the safety and health of the drivers in the longer terms Backspine pain is not a thing that can be taken lightly. Team manufacturer and FIA especially can't simply treat drivers as a lab rat This is something they need to deal with seriously
Teams can raise the height.This is just fia being fia for Merc's sake
And you're just spitting BS for BS sake. How do you figure this is for Mercedes' sake when it will likely hinder Merc more than the others?
Let’s wait and see who this impacts. The expectation is that this will affect Mercedes more than any other team. The sight of Hamilton once again being pulverised by George will bring a smile to my face. Do we know if Mercedes have another experimental set-up waiting for Hamilton later today? Expect to see Hamilton 0.3 behind again. 'Stillwerise'
I think Mercedes wanted to get mass damper, they didn't think FIA will go for ride height.
Gasly, tell your engineers to add some mm to ride height. You will be racing with Schumacher, but no porpoising. You welcome.
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