Mercedes fined for Hamilton and Russell's Parc Fermé issue

No it doesn't. In Austria 2022, Lewis and Max were both fined the exact same amount (both fines suspended) for the same offence. And now, it's happened again with the fine being the same amount but not suspended. You can't claim Merc favouritism when Merc were punished. You just want to see heads roll, probably literally knowing you. Max impeded Alonso in qualifying. Gasly impeded a driver too. Gasly got a penalty, Verstappen, nothing. So if there is a claim to be made anywhere looking at this, it's that it seems the decisions go in Red Bull's favour. Just as they have been doing since the start of 2021. When the FIA breaks it's own rules for you to win, you know that team is lying in bed with the FIA every single night.

Up until the last paragraph, totally agree. The rest, well, we know you...

I don't need to feel better, but when you don't have any answers to what I'm saying but a desperate to contend with them anyway, what am I supposed to think? "He sure did not follow it to the letter, but apparently he had the power to do so. It is the way it is. Case closed ;-) " And this is where your problem lies. You have no idea how to debate. You think it's case closed because you said 'apparently'? No, that's not good enough. Do you think he 'apparently had the power to do so' because Red Bull fans have claimed this and you just went along for the ride? Or did you extrapolate that from the FIA report when they investigated themselves? If you believe he had the power to do so, why do you believe it and based on what actual evidence? I only ask because I know he did NOT have the power to break the rules as he saw fit. So if you can provide proof that proves me wrong, then do so. Because I'm telling you, you are incorrect. You will likely realise you cannot show your claim to be true and just say "we've been over it before so no point going over it again, I can't change your mind blah blah blah.". But absolute proof of your claim that he had the power to do so, would indeed change my mind. Let's see if you can get that proof. I wish you the best of luck.

You can take it anyway you feel best about it :-) It does not change a thing, but will sure make you feel better I guess, so by all means! As for Masi, we have been over that time and again. He sure did not follow it to the letter, but apparently he had the power to do so. It is the way it is. Case closed ;-)

It wouldn't matter if you did. It does show me that you have no answers though, so I'll take that and you are acknowledging my points. You can deny it, but your lack of a riposte displays otherwise. So, do you acknowledge that Masi broke the rules which enabled Max to win that race?

You are very welcome to bring it up time and again ;-) I won't mind

I will play that record as many times as I want. The discussion might be done for you but not for me. Tell me you acknowledge that Masi broke the rules which enabled Max to win that race (no if's, but's or conditions) and then I won't bring it up with you again (unless you chose to reply to me discussing it with someone else). I am only stating the facts. It's nothing to do with what I consider to be the facts. The facts are that Michael Masi, whilst engaging in a radio conversation with Red Bull's Jonathan Wheatley, contravened Article 48.12 on two separate occasions. If you have more factual facts than those facts, I invite you to bring them. But make sure it's not just something you consider as facts. I can back up my statement with proof as I have done on several occasions. If you think you can prove me wrong, do so and shut me up for once and for all. If you can't then just acknowledge the truth and move on.

Because we had that discussion. It is getting old, like a broken record on repeat. Providing the same arguments over and over, others debunking the same over and over. The discussion is done, we look forward now ;-) Btw, whatever you consider as facts is totally irrelevant too ;-) I am totally fine with that :-)

Apart from the last paragraph, you agreeing is irrelevant as they were facts anyway. Disagreeing with facts won't make you look that good. The last paragraph, if you disagree, how come you failed to say why and where are your counterpoints to show I was wrong. Max got off with something that Gasly didn't. You agreed with that (you said). So that favours Max (who is a Red Bull driver) and not Gasly. And the FIA did indeed break it's own rules enabling Max to win a race that he otherwise could not have won. That is also a fact. I get it that those who cannot bear to think Max's 2021 title is tainted with illegitimacy will argue that black is white on this one, but it makes no difference to the facts and to what happened. So, I don't require you to agree or disagree with any of it. I won't make it any more or less accurate than it already is.

You're right, that would really hurt the millionaire sportsmen in the pockets. Great idea.

It really should be. Next time a driver that has a physio/trainer break the same rule, they should argue that the fine should be 5k, since it's half the infraction of Mercedes.

tbh LH44 as you're all to well aware unfortunately some of the tools ( M....c being one ) commenting on here make comments just for the sake of having their little voice heard, sad really

That's all it is. Desperate attention seeking for likes which the perpetually confused anti-Lewis crowd are all too eager to give. All the anti-Lewis/Merc posts on this blog get the most likes. This is the environment we have. Trolls with child like attitudes posting their every thought like it matters.

@LH44 Hammer-time At least 5 grid penalty in Canada if they were serious. This is unacceptable.

Of course it's unacceptable for you. When Verstappen was guilty of the same thing he got a €10,000 fine which was suspended. That means they didn't even have to pay it. THAT was unacceptable. He should have had a 10 place grid penalty at the next race.