Are Brown and Wolff right? Is there a walkout at Red Bull Racing?

09:30, 09 May 2024
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Is there really a walkout at Red Bull Racing? Red Bull Racing and Christian Horner claim this is not the case, while Zak Brown and Toto Wolff claim they have received all sorts of CVs from Red Bull employees. Who is right?

The unrest behind the scenes at Red Bull Racing has continued for a while. Since Dietrich Mateschitz's death, the Thai owner and Red Bull Austria have become diametrically opposed. Mateschitz, despite a 49% minority stake, had complete authority over sporting decisions. Since his death, Red Bull Austria, of which Mateschitz was the head, no longer has that authority.

That power now lies back with Chalerm Yoovidhya, who, with 51% of the shares, has all the say. Christian Horner has moved closer and closer to the Thai and now gets his full support. Red Bull Austria, whose figurehead is still Helmut Marko, has less to say, and that came out badly in the Horner case.

Why Newey wanted to leave Red Bull

While the Austrians, backed by camp Verstappen, wanted to get rid of Horner, the team boss simply stayed at his post. A case is still pending against the Briton, given that the woman who accused him of inappropriate behaviour has appealed against the outcome of the independent investigation launched by Red Bull.

This battle in the background has cost Red Bull Adrian Newey. The top designer will never say it like this, but his statements to Sky Sports spoke volumes. The top designer had started to doubt his future with the team over the winter, and that did not get any better during the beginning of this year, which was exactly the period when the case around Horner started to play out. So, while Horner claims that Newey's departure has nothing to do with the soap opera surrounding him, Newey himself says quite a different thing.

This is not surprising, either. Newey and his wife were also on good terms with the woman who brought the charges against Horner. So, possibly, the whole settlement of this also played a role in Newey's decision to leave.

There was also unrest in the aftermath. Newey sent a farewell message thanking all the important people within Red Bull. Marko's name is missing from it. One story is that Newey simply forgot that himself, while another states that camp Horner had Marko's name removed from the statement.

Does Verstappen still want to leave Red Bull?

Meanwhile, Max Verstappen is also still being lured by other teams. The Dutchman is careful with his words and did not once express that he is 100% staying at Red Bull Racing. On the other hand, Mercedes are the alternatives and are not exactly having a year that would make you eager to make the switch. So, an extra year at Red Bull Racing is certainly not out of the question.

The key to Verstappen's departure lies with Helmut Marko. If Verstappen wants to leave Red Bull, Marko will quit. If the Austrian steps up, it will ensure that a clause in Verstappen's contract is triggered, allowing him to leave the team despite an ongoing contract until 2028.

There is also disagreement within Red Bull about that clause. One camp argues that this clause would have been in the contract from day one, while the other camp argues that it was only added later when the power struggle became increasingly clear behind the scenes.

Who is leaving at Red Bull?

Verstappen is not the only one possibly leaving the team. Jonathan Wheatley, Red Bull Racing's sporting director, has an expiring contract and is looking at options at other teams. Wheatley was put forward as a potential replacement for Horner when he was under fire, and now that that is no longer in the pipeline, he would like to take his chance with another team. Alpine and Sauber/Audi seem the most logical candidates.

Yet, not everyone is leaving. Late last year, Ben Waterhouse (Head of Performance Engineering) and Enrico Balbo (Head of Aerodynamics) signed a new contract until 2028, followed by Pierre Waché in February this year. The technical director is also fixed until 2028, leaving the core of the technical team intact.

Brown and Wolff naturally like to shout that they receive a lot of CVs from Red Bull employees, but of course, the same is true the other way around. Brown and Wolff are now also calling this out mainly to destabilise Red Bull, and that's normal, according to Verstappen. What is a fact is that the unrest is far from over.

This article was written in collaboration with Matt Gretton.

38 Comments
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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 11:22+ 4952

Chalerm Yoovidhya + Christian Horner = Chaos The triple C³ of Redbulls recent problems, unfortunately untill we see some sort of stability, maybe a few races of Max doing slams will refocus the team .

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Mavric 09 May 2024 at 11:59+ 19032

Vegan think there more problams in merc and toto spin things to take the heat off him for not sorting his team out .honer been getting on with the job

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 13:06+ 4952

Mavric, Toto didn't pull Horner's pants down, he did that by himself my friend . But I agree Merc has their own set of issues they're working through.

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Mavric 09 May 2024 at 13:23+ 19032

Vegan honer did not pull his pants down when had the investergation but toto cant sort his team out so toto got to poke into other team to make him self look good .but toto make him self look silly .he should sort his house out but not got clue this 3rd year he had bad car.if he was manger of a football club the shear holdsers would saked him

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 15:23+ 4952

So he did pull his pants down? That's my point, no pun intended.

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Mavric 09 May 2024 at 13:55+ 19032

I dont think he did with it and if he did dont you think the owner would not backed honer

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 13:36+ 4952

Did he or didn't he pull his pants down Mavric ?

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Mavric 09 May 2024 at 13:34+ 19032

They had a indpentent investergation and ruled honer done nothing wrong .the woman said she wqnted go back to work at rbr so if honer did pull pants down why would she want to go back to that then ?

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 13:30+ 4952

I dont disagree with your assessment of Toto and Mercedes, but to claim Horner did nothing wrong is very niave Mavric, thats why there's an investigation currently ? ? ?. So he pulled his pants down, just because he didn't get fired doesn't mean he didn't pull his pants down, simply means the pants pulling wasn't deemed a dismissal offence .

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 14:34+ 2424

Apparently horner himself also didn't pull his own pants down. It was done for him.

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Vegan Warrior 11 May 2024 at 05:58+ 4952

Hahaha haha, you know

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J41L 11 May 2024 at 24:48+ 23568

"Incoherent, ramblings" Glad to see you recognize yourself ?

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Vegan Warrior 11 May 2024 at 24:14+ 4952

Incoherent, ramblings of a CH supporter. You're 100% sure ? good luck with that . I see a ?

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J41L 10 May 2024 at 22:03+ 23568

It has pretty much to do with what you were saying. But since you refuse to watch it, you will never know which is a shame, because you can learn a lot. But it will blow the woke bubble you live in.

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Vegan Warrior 10 May 2024 at 21:55+ 4952

I dont need to watch what you suggested, as I knownits nothing to do with what I posted.. except digging, which the hole you're you're digging ?

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J41L 10 May 2024 at 21:49+ 23568

I don't need to watch this, I know what it means. But I don't see what it has to do with Horner. Except maybe for controlling, which is a very important part of management, and Horner is the TP, hence, the chief manger.

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Vegan Warrior 10 May 2024 at 19:24+ 4952

I suggest you watch this documentary on YouTube: "What is coercive & controlling behaviour" by Northants Police.?

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 20:19+ 4952

????????

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 20:17+ 2424

Ok duck if you say so.

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 19:53+ 4952

If its quacks like duck, if it walks like a duck, its a duck ?

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 19:18+ 2424

You heard about the blind hatred?

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 18:57+ 4952

Yip its not always what it seems, that I agree. You heard about the duck anology ?

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 18:12+ 2424

Yes . You need to know that i don't judge people. You need to know that all is not always what it seems.

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 18:00+ 4952

Why do you come at me so hard by backing Horner ,is there somthing you know?

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 17:58+ 2424

Exactly. So why judging so hard from your side. Is there something that we need to know?

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 17:52+ 4952

Because it's Horner you're not giving him a hard time. There's an appeal in process and when we have the details in public , we all can make comments for or against.

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 17:31+ 2424

Just because it's Horner you give him a hard time. I don't judge people. To be honest. It's because of stupid people that this hole thing is still relevant. It was investigated and horner was found not guilty. That's supposed to be the end of it. People that can't get over it is the problem. How sad must your life be if you can't get over it.

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J41L 10 May 2024 at 19:18+ 23568

I suggest you to watch Bill Burr gold digging * on YouTube ?

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 17:22+ 4952

Because he is not the first, do you give him give him a free pass?

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 17:16+ 2424

Do you think he is the first "boss" to be tempted? This type of thing happens on a daily basis. Although it's morally wrong, it's not against the law. Most people got skeletons in the closet. Unfortunately people that point fingers the most is normally the last ones that should point fingers.

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 17:06+ 4952

I didn't say otherwise, he is the married boss. Leader duty of care and all that nonsense ?

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 16:53+ 2424

Nope. It takes two to tango.

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 16:46+ 4952

Difference is he's the boss, should have known better don't you think.

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Racing Bull 09 May 2024 at 16:40+ 2424

Seems like both was willing.

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Vegan Warrior 09 May 2024 at 16:07+ 4952

Either way, the pants should have stayed up.

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New Realist 09 May 2024 at 09:54+ 561

Yawn....

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Mavric 09 May 2024 at 10:21+ 19032

But fv said he had lot cv from mec so is there lot of walk out there .and zack had a member staff walk out .but zack and toto love stir things about red bull .but toto fogot that red bull took 220 staff off toto ?

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New Realist 09 May 2024 at 10:25+ 561

Quite right